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MLD
Starting Member
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 Posted - 16 Oct 2009 : 2:17:48 PM
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My apologies... my post was not intended to rattle any cages. Only to point out that mr.sneezy was referring to the voices..not the volume, as both were set on 100% 
After reading previous posts, I wanted to comment on this topic as user feedback should be valued for a better product in the longrun, due to comments of all Navig8r users.
Navig8r have my tick of approval hands down.... and I have recommended the M43 to freinds and family with no hesitation.
Esmeralda, to answer your question of where my M43 is located.... as I did "complain". It is sitting in front of the automatic gear shifter in a Fairmont front console. the screen is sitting on a foam mat as to not damage the screen, making the speaker face the driver. The placement of the M43 was due to my lack of reading instructions and not working out that the M43 long mountie thingy could bend once placed on the windscreen. Oh the youth of today!
Ps.. instructions are to be read if all else fails !!! 
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mr.sneezy
Advanced Member
Australia
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Posted - 21 Oct 2009 : 1:29:53 PM
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Interesting comments. Thought I'd respond a bit more, although my interest in it has waned.
The comment from Ray.
"Remember this: female voices usually operate at higher frequencies than male voices. Higher frequencies normally better penetrate ambient noise than do lower frequencies."
Yes, but I think if I recall my school work right that high audio frequencies attenuate faster than low audio frequencies and are more easily damped by surrounding objects. (e.g. we can hear a kids car with a bass sub-woofer in it coming from 500m away up the road !).
Maybe that's an overriding factor here. Dunno for sure, just conjecture Ray, no arguing your point...
The comment from admin.
"With the Sept 09 update, a volume work around was already implemented so the loudest volume setting you have now is the maximum we can achieve for that speaker type before distortion."
OK good work, but why ? On most every audio device I own I can drive the volume knob to distortion if I so choose to.
Could you rescale the audio driver control to have your current preference at say 75% instead of 100%, and let me drive into distortion towards the rescaled 100% if I want too please. That way I decide what's too much distortion to accept.
Maybe that's all Tomtom did ?
Point taken about thin case and very small speaker though, I don't expect miracles out of it.
Cheers all,
Martin
PS. I'm still very happy with my purchase of the M43.
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esmerelda
Guru
Australia
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Posted - 21 Oct 2009 : 3:40:35 PM
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Originally posted by mr.sneezy
Yes, but I think if I recall my school work right that high audio frequencies attenuate faster than low audio frequencies and are more easily damped by surrounding objects. (e.g. we can hear a kids car with a bass sub-woofer in it coming from 500m away up the road !).
Maybe that's an overriding factor here. Dunno for sure, just conjecture Ray, no arguing your point...
You might well be correct on the results of attenuation. However, I'd be surprised if attenuation would noticeably reduce the volume within 1-1.5m which would have to be close to the maximum distance between speaker and ears.
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On most every audio device I own I can drive the volume knob to distortion if I so choose to.
{br] Sorry but I am a weak person, and just could not resist the next comment.
I'm sorry to break it to you, but it's not the volume knob that actually produces the sound. Seriously, if the thin speakers are incapable of outputting greater volume than the sound produced by the electronics, I think the volume knob is stuffed.
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mr.sneezy
Advanced Member
Australia
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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 4:25:31 PM
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[quoteI'm sorry to break it to you, but it's not the volume knob that actually produces the sound. Seriously, if the thin speakers are incapable of outputting greater volume than the sound produced by the electronics, I think the volume knob is stuffed.
Ray - M43
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Funny stuff Ray LOL
Seriously, the only way to prove my suspicion is going to be using a sound pressure level meter, and measure the SAME M43 unit running the Naviga8rs own software voice verses the software voices from Tomtom 7.9 (has two) , out of the same speaker, same unit, at the same distance.
If I can arrange such a test I'll give you the results. It will be interesting... |
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esmerelda
Guru
Australia
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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 8:27:03 PM
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Originally posted by mr.sneezy
If I can arrange such a test I'll give you the results. It will be interesting...
Yeah! But will anyone care? That's often the burning question. |
Ray - M43 |
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saaz
Guru
Australia
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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 9:03:05 PM
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| I will tell you about the volume once I have the M43 to compare to my M35. My car is relatively quiet unless I have the window down so I often have the M35 volume turned down anyway. I too can now look like a tool with two GPS units in the car side by side for testing purposes :) I want to see if the M43 adds anything to the navigation experince. If the volume is an issue, then it is motorcycle use for the M43 (as it will be plugged into a communications system). |
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saaz
Guru
Australia
386 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2009 : 3:36:50 PM
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| I have had only a brief play with the M43 as it is still getting its first charge. Volume seems to be high enough (September software version), as I am running it at less than full volume (system volume max, navig8r volume 2/3rds or so). I have yet to install updates to see what the i interface looks like. |
John (M35 & M43) 'i" series beta |
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saaz
Guru
Australia
386 Posts |
Posted - 22 Nov 2009 : 2:38:59 PM
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| I can now confirm that volume is fine whendriving around, even not set to maximum. |
John (M35 & M43) 'i" series beta |
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ramerry
Starting Member
Australia
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Posted - 01 Mar 2010 : 8:37:25 PM
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Hi all,
I have fixed my volume problem. I suggested a while back about putting a small speaker and preamp onto the M43 & it worked all right but i have found one better. I bought an FM modulator off Ebay and use the M43 through the radio, now there is enough volume even for the truckie who is passing can hear, not only that it comes with a remote control SD card & usb connection + small Lcd screen all for $6.95 with free postage.
Check it out, works like a charm. |
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